1st September 2007

What is the worst thing that can occur? (an echoing in eternity)

I have decided… actually I hit DSM up many moons ago about this…

I have decided to post some of the e-mails from the volumoinous, dusty archives of the ongoing conversation between D.S. Martin and myself. I chose this transmission to lead with because;

A. Its a good one.
B. I am not sure if I answered any of these questions- at least not well, because I found them deeply penetrating, insightful, tough, perhaps pre-mature in our conversation… at least pre-mature for where I was really intending to go in the alotted timeframe we were working with.
C. I wonder if the answers DSM was pondering for these questions has changed from the time he asked them.

Here is the first installment of: Quantum Contemplations: Dialog Flucuating In Eternity

E-mail entitled: More Questions to consider

Scott,

There are some questions that I have pondered over the years in various contexts and by which I have been personally challenged.
These questions will directly impact our discussion about “Christianity” bringing horror to your ancestors and others.
I would like to know if you, personally, have answers to these questions, but even if you do not, I think that the questions are valuable to contemplate.
My formulation of the underlying question came about as a result of my struggle with the issue of Capital Punishment by a government.
If Capital Punishment causes the death of “innocent” people, which I know it does, (I put ‘innocent’ in quotes because the term is relative. Thus, no adult is innocent in real terms.), would there be an overarching value in allowing the individual to remain alive for a few years, yet, nevertheless to go to hell?
This question, obviously, would be directed to an omnipresent, omniscient, omni-benevolent, merciful, and just God.

1) What is the worst thing that can occur to any human being, man, woman, or child?

2) If torture and death is the worst thing that could happen, Where does this put damnation to hell?

3) If hell is the worst thing that could happen, Where does this put torture and death?

4) If hell is the worst thing that could happen, What level and/or number of tortures and death would make salvation of one solitary soul untenable?

5) If there is no level of torture and death that could justify the salvation of one solitary soul, What does this imply for Jesus’ suffering torture and death?

6) If there is an acceptable & narrowly restricted level of torture and death that would make the salvation of one solitary soul acceptable, Where is that limit?

7) What is the fundamental value a soul who rejects God and will forever embrace Satan?

8) What is the cumulative value of a finite number of souls who reject God and will forever embrace Satan?

9) If hell is the worst thing that could happen, Could the preservation, for a finite number of years, of a finite number of souls who reject God and will forever embrace Satan, be preferable to the salvation of one solitary soul?

10) Has a single solitary soul attained salvation by Jesus as a result of the horrors of “Christianity”?

11) If a soul prayed to God for “the way” and the Lord answered the prayer and sent an evangelist to explain the way of Jesus (Like Cornelius’ answered prayer in Acts 10), but which also brought torture and death to them and many others as well, Would the answered prayer be unjustified?

What do you think? Are there answers?

DSM

Sphere: Related Content

posted in christian, co-existence, environment, ethics, faith, ideology, just warfare, metaphysics, philosophy, politics, postmodernism, purpose, reconciliation, spirituality, stewardship, theology | 0 Comments

26th August 2007

XIT Color Nature Gone, Silent Warrior 1973


I have been looking for a clip with this music for soooo long. My father had the album with this song when I was a kid. Thank you so much. I think I’m gonna cry now… yep.

Sphere: Related Content

posted in design, diversity, ecology, environment, ethics, faith, ideology, indigenous, native american, peace, philosophy, politics, postmodernism, social comment, spirituality, theology | 0 Comments

18th August 2007

Stranger In a Strange "New" World


Click the small arrow in the corner to stay on this page while watching.

I remember the first time I found this simple, yet hauntingly beautiful clip. I couldn’t stop watching it. The melancholy, yet powerful song stirred something deep within me. I have to admit it was a deep, painful longing for a world I had really never known. My eyes misted. I couldn’t stop watching it. I went and found the lyrics for it. here they are:

A Perfect Circle - A Stranger Lyrics

Cast the calming apple
Up and over satellites
To draw out the timid wild one
To convince you it’s alright
And I listen for the whisper
Of your sweet insanity
while I formulate
Denials of your affect on me

You’re a stranger
So what do I care
You vanish today
Not the first time I hear
All the lies

What am I to do with all this silence
Shy away, shy away phantom
Run away terrified child
Won’t you move away
you %$@#&*! tornado
I’m better off without you
Tearing my world down

_____________________________________________________

This song is very in tune with my brooding mood at this time.

Its hard to explain. The feeling is a sweet, painful, righteous, longing and sorrow. Feeling it feels… right… as in appropriate… in order. Because in feeling it I know that I cannot but move to the unction of things on my heart. It motivates me. And that feels good and right.

Sphere: Related Content

posted in discipleship, diversity, ecology, environment, ethics, faith, forgiveness, ideology, native american, nature, philosophy, postmodernism, prayer, spirituality, stewardship, theology, video | 1 Comment

21st March 2007

POVERTY, POLLUTION AND ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM:

posted in christian, discipleship, ecology, ideology, native american, order, philosophy, politics, postmodernism, social comment, spirituality, stewardship | 7 Comments

21st March 2007

The Great Global Warming Swindle?

This video is pretty well done:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4520665474899458831

I think the ‘environmental movement’ such as it is called did itself, and possibly everyone else, a great dis- service when it hitched its wagon to the global warming theory. I guess they did so because they thought it would carry more weight because of the dire predictions. They thought it would scare people into doing what they ought- exercising stewardship of the planet and its ecosystems.

They would have been much better off just focusing on responsibility, clean air and water and the advantages it gives to physical and spiritual health as opposed to pollution and physical and metaphysical toxicity. TRADITIONAL Native American philosophy goes much deeper than just quibbling over the divisive theory of global warming- deeper even than the concept of mere sustainability that is yet ingrained with the value system of materialism and domination instead of harmony. Deep ecology and/or Native philosophy or even the acknowledgment of the mandate of Christian stewardship engages in the concept of reciprocation and participating in the harmony and balance of creation- of life and purpose- the cycle of birth, growth, maturity and fulfillment. At least that’s the way it was in Native America and/or biblical Judeo- Christian theology before they BOTH assimilated and began to participate in the materialism, will to empire and the freakin’ casino and resort industry respectively.

Anyhow, here is one of my favorite quotes that pushes past the endless political spin on both sides of the Global warming debate. (both sides are motivated by money, prestige, political power and preservation of vested interests):

“Modern industrial civilization has developed within a certain system of convenient myths. The driving force of modern industrial civilization has been individual material gain, which is accepted as legitimate, even praiseworthy, on the grounds that private vices yield public benefits, in the classic formulation. Now, it has long been understood, very well, that a society that is based on this principle will destroy itself in time. It can only persist, with whatever suffering and injustice that it entails, as long as it is possible to pretend that the destructive forces that humans create are limited, that the world is an infinite resource, and that the world is an infinite garbage can. At this stage of history either one of two things is possible. Either the general population will take control of its own destiny and will concern itself with community interests, guided by values of solidarity, sympathy and concern for others, or alternatively there will be no destiny for anyone to control. As long as some specialized class is in a position of authority, it is going to set policy in the special interests that it serves. But the conditions of survival, let alone justice, require rational social planning in the interests of the community as a whole, and by now that means the global community. The question is whether privileged elite should dominate mass communication and should use this power as they tell us they must — namely to impose necessary illusions, to manipulate and deceive the stupid majority and remove them from the public arena. The question in brief, is whether democracy and freedom are values to be preserved or threats to be avoided. In this possibly terminal phase of human existence, democracy and freedom are more than values to be treasured; they may well be essential to survival.” - Chomsky

Sphere: Related Content

posted in christian, co-existence, ecology, environment, ethics, ideology, metaphysics, politics, postmodernism, purpose, spirituality, stewardship, theology | 2 Comments

19th March 2007

Sympathy for The Devil- Remix- The Rolling Stones


Click on the small arrow at the corner of the screen to stay in this page while watching or listening.

This Rocks!!!!

As my excellent friend, David, once pointed out- this song nails it from the perspective of Satan.

Sphere: Related Content

posted in Military Industrial Complex, christian, ethics, faith, ideology, metaphysics, morality, peace, philosophy, politics, postmodernism, social comment, spirituality, theology | 0 Comments

31st January 2007

The Corporate News Purveyors


Pay no attention to the corporate entity behind the curtain!!

Here is an ARTICLE about the rise of the corporate media and what it does to the collective “we”.

Excerpt:

…But Big Media doesn’t answer to a foundation. It answers to Wall Street, and to the demands of the market.

Many of those demands are well documented and often decried: The dumbing down of political discourse, an increasing emphasis on pictures instead of words, a lack of critical thinking, and putting profit before journalism.

“ABC News reporters were not able to go anywhere near the war in Afghanistan,” Lapham said with some exaggeration, but ABC’s parent, the Walt Disney Co., hired Hollywood producer Jerry Bruckheimer to make a 13-part series on the war “with the full cooperation of the Pentagon.”

“The media always wants to reduce it to a fairy tale,” he said. “You can’t tell the difference between the war in Afghanistan and ‘The Fellowship of the Ring.’ Even the names are similar.”

Lapham is most dismayed that he has been accused of being unpatriotic, when he isn’t. “In a democracy, the most valuable quality is candor,” he said. “Democracy works best when people try to tell each other the truth. That’s not what we’ve got. We’ve got a lot of cant.”

Lapham once considered himself a centrist, but said the center has moved so far to the right that he’s now seen as liberal. Still, he believes the notion of a liberal media is “a canard . . . utterly a straw man as far as I’m concerned.”

The right wing wants to “blame the wreckage of the culture on a few university professors,” Lapham said. “The people that have (wrecked the culture) — it’s the (Rupert) Murdochs of the world. Those are the people who say, ‘Whatever the market will bear.’ The market doesn’t think. The market isn’t a cultivated person. It’s a ball bearing. It will go immediately to what sells. That’s what wrecks the culture.”

Lapham offered some examples. He used to contribute to “Travel and Leisure Golf,” which was edited by a friend of his, Jim Gaines, the former editor of Time magazine. Gaines tried to give the magazine a literary bent, Lapham said, assigning work to writers like George Plimpton, John Updike and Chip McGrath.

But American Express Publishing, which owns the magazine, said the profit wasn’t high enough, he said. “They dumbed down the magazine,” he said. “Now it’s like Golf Digest. It’s about your swing. Gaines is gone and it’s a whole different game plan.”

Comments;
There are those that will stop reading this article when they see from whence it comes…the San Francisco Chronicle. This negative, gut reaction is in itself a testament to the power and effectiveness of the propaganda campaign to scape goat all things “liberal” of which San Fransico is supposedly the Mecca of sorts. Things that come from San Fransisco are somehow inherantly flawed in the minds of many these days. Review the recent campaign to somehow prevent Nancy Pelosi from becoming the Speaker of the House. She was characterized as a “San Francisco Liberal”- which is as far as I can reckon supposed to be an extremely deranged and virulent species of “liberal” and the harbinger of the End of Days. To me, she’s just another politico from another city in the U.S.

I myself when discussing an issue have been encouraged to “just go ahead and move to San Francisco” where I’ll find lots of people who agree with me and we can all just cavort and dawdle in our own little delusional universe til doomsday. Doomsday, by the way, will not be long in coming, according to these folks- and will also be brought to us because of the cultural onslaught and scourge of liberalism and the “liberal media”. These remarks are often followed with a smirky expression that indicates that the person who has made them assumes that the debate is now over, the final, crushing, ultimate retort having been delivered. I say that this is a perfect example of how the discourse in this country unfortunatly including the Churches has been poisoned by characterization, generalization, inuendo, short cuts to thinking and flat out balderdash.

Another example would be how subjects like air and water quality, topics every human has a responsibility and a stake in, are simply squelched by tossing around catch phrases like “tree- hugger” which is by now a term with household recognition…any mass marketer’s dream accomplishment.

I have said before, with every attempt to not sound arrogant and condescending like those who offend me- myself so much, whenever somebody starts trying to tell me about the “left- wing media” I quickly conclude that this person does not know enough about the workings of media or perhaps even human nature to be discussing the topic in the first place.

Simply put, the media is controlled by those who finance and own the journalistic and entertainment production mechanisms and outlets of dissemination. These production and distribution mechanisms are driven by the profit imperative and fueled by advertising dollars. Do the math. Follow the money trails just like the Yellow Brick Road. You will come to the same conclusion that Dorothy came to in Oz when she discovered the “Wizard” behind the curtain pushing pedals and buttons and yanking levers.

When I converse upon these subjects, some people don’t seem to grasp the idea that I am not defending the integrity of the media and trying to say that the media does not skew reality. This is just not so. What I am trying to convey is that they are right in being suspicious of the media, but, the idea that the problem is in the political liberalism of the media is simply not supported by solid evidence or a working demonstrative model of how the so called “liberal media” operates. The thesis that I am working from does in fact have a solid basis of evidence as well as a flow- chart- like working model of how it works. Sure there are liberal voices and personlities and agendas and anecdotes working within the media complex. This however, does not by any means validate the idea that the entire media complex is all geared to the same left leaning worldview. In fact the evidence suggests that if anything the truth is closer to the opposite.

Here is what was said elsewhere in the blog, which I stand pat on:

The “Left Wing Media” is a mythical construct of propaganda and is actually a profit-generating arm of the corporate machine that is ironically more associated with big business and “conservative” interests.
The consumerism and hedonism you see on T.V. and the in the movies has NOTHING to do with political liberalism or conservatism for that matter. The endless parade of decadence and materialism that flows out of America is a well oiled marketing machine- selling more cars, fast food, soft drinks, fashion items, video games and tabloid sensationalism to consumers by stimulating them with ever-more provocative imagery and false needs.
Big business and corporatism is responsible for the America’s image abroad and her spiritual condition- not political liberalism or Democrats. Follow the money…do the math…its really simple.

One thing that the author of this article asserts is that he reckons himself to have been a centrist that moved so far to the right that people consider him a liberal. I have felt the same way for years. When one criticizes the existing order, which is in this case the “conservative” propaganda campaign, they are often castigated as “liberal” just because they are speaking critically of “conservative” assertions. Nowadays, all one has to do to become a liberal is to refrain from singing the praises of conservatives, dare to question them or, God forbid, challenge them on any matter. I don’t think I need to elaborate on how counter- productive and yea even dangerous this trend is. It has gotten so bad, that I no longer insist that I am actually a conservative in these discussions. I have come to the conclusion that the definitions of conservative and liberal have become so muddled, confused and overused that the whole conservative/liberal debate is pointless, meaningless and an impediment to everything we need to be trying to accomplish as a community if people with common interests.

If you think about all of this instead of simply repeating ideas that have been repititiously served up by other people with agendas for you to interpret media data in a certain way- you will likely come to the same conclusion that I am offering you here.

There are plenty of other entries in this blog that point up examples of what I am talking about. There are also some good clips and educational materials linked. If you click on media related tags at the bottom of this entry it will take you to other ramblings and educational spots on this topic.

Sphere: Related Content

posted in christian, ethics, ideology, media, politics, postmodernism, propaganda, social comment, spirituality, stewardship, theology | 2 Comments

20th January 2007

Game Over: Gender, Race & Violence in Video Games


Click on the small arrow in the corner of the screen to stay on this page while digging the clip.

The “Left Wing Media” is a mythical construct of propaganda and is actually a profit-generating arm of the corporate machine that is ironically more associated with big business and “conservative” interests.
The consumerism and hedonism you see on T.V. and the in the movies has NOTHING to do with political liberalism or conservatism for that matter. The endless parade of decadence and materialism that flows out of America is a well oiled marketing machine- selling more cars, fast food, soft drinks, fashion items, video games and tabloid sensationalism to consumers by stimulating them with ever-more provocative imagery and false needs.
Big business and corporatism is responsible for the America’s image abroad and her spiritual condition- not political liberalism or Democrats. Follow the money…do the math…its really simple.

Eleven Rules of Corporate Behavior

Is my dissent legitimate? See here:

You Gotta Keep ‘Em Separated

Confronting the Powers That Be

Media Education Foundation Videos

Sphere: Related Content

posted in christian, co-existence, faith, ideology, just warfare, media, morality, non-violence, pacifism, peace, philosophy, politics, postmodernism, social comment, theology, video | 0 Comments

20th January 2007

The Killing Screens: Media & the Culture of Violence


Click on the small arrow in the corner of the screen to stay on this page while digging the clip.

The “Left Wing Media” is a mythical construct of propaganda and is actually a profit-generating arm of the right-wing corporate machine.
The consumerism and hedonism you see on T.V. and the in the movies has NOTHING to do with political liberalism. The endless parade of decadence and materialism that flows out of America is a well oiled marketing machine- selling more cars, fast food, soft drinks, fashion items, video games and tabloid sensationalism to consumers by stimulating them with ever-more provocative imagery and false needs.
Big business and corporatism is responsible for the America’s image abroad and her spiritual condition- not political liberalism or Democrats. Follow the money…do the math…its really simple.

Eleven Rules of Corporate Behavior

Is my dissent legitimate? See here:

You Gotta Keep ‘Em Separated

Confronting the Powers That Be

Media Education Foundation Videos

Sphere: Related Content

posted in christian, discipleship, just warfare, media, morality, non-violence, pacifism, peace, peacemaking, philosophy, politics, postmodernism, social comment, theology, video | 9 Comments

20th January 2007

Toxic Sludge is Good For You


Click on the small arrow in the corner of the screen to stay on this page while digging the clip.

WOW!!!


Eleven Rules of Corporate Behavior

Sphere: Related Content

posted in christian, ecology, environment, ethics, ideology, media, morality, politics, postmodernism, spirituality, theology, video | 0 Comments

  • What's Happened since...?

  • July 2008
    M T W T F S S
    « Dec    
     123456
    78910111213
    14151617181920
    21222324252627
    28293031  
  • Fine Music